Structural Racism in the Food System: Perspectives from Black Women Scholars- Webinar May 24, 2019 Transcript 00:01:52.410 --> 00:01:57.990 Welcome to the first INFAS graduate fellows webinar. 6 00:02:04.080 --> 00:02:05.790 I get the slide. Okay. 7 00:02:10.590 --> 00:02:18.360 All right. Welcome to the first INFAS graduate fellows webinar. I will begin by giving a brief overview of the webinar and an introduction. 8 00:02:19.020 --> 00:02:29.970 before handing it off to the fellows who will share their work and their perspectives. My name is Joanna Friesner and I coordinate the INFAS network, which I will introduce in the next slide. 9 00:02:30.690 --> 00:02:36.330 I am recording this webinar for future viewing and we'll share a link to it in the next few days. 10 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:46.650 You may submit questions via the chat function and I will do my best to include as many as we have time for do during the Q and A planned for the end 11 00:02:46.980 --> 00:02:55.560 I do want to ensure there's time for the fellows, including hearing their insights into the extra question that I posed to them, which was 12 00:02:56.070 --> 00:03:08.310 What should food system scholars and practitioners from outside the HBCU system, be aware of and/or actions to take with respect to structural racism in the food system. 13 00:03:10.710 --> 00:03:23.160 So I will start with just very brief background INFAS was established in 2010 with an endowment from the W.K. Kellogg Foundation, and it is a national network of university and 14 00:03:26.790 --> 00:03:29.010 Sorry, I'm getting a note- ok view mode. 15 00:03:30.450 --> 00:03:40.650 I don't know how to do that. So I'm gonna keep going: a national network of university and college educators researchers and activists representing 25 institutions and spanning 20 states. 16 00:03:41.430 --> 00:03:50.160 Our vision is a US food system that is environmentally sustainable and socially just this requires structural equality, such that race. 17 00:03:50.610 --> 00:04:02.550 Class and Gender no longer determine health outcomes, social status or economic opportunity, and that healthy restored agro ecosystems and fisheries are achievable. 18 00:04:04.110 --> 00:04:19.080 Some key objectives for the network include to increase the capacity of the scientific community to address the nation's major sustainability challenges and to raise the visibility of challenges posed by the current food systems. 19 00:04:19.770 --> 00:04:30.390 The INFAS network has a collaboratively shared leadership structure and our current Chair of the executive committee is Dr. Christine Porter at the University of Wyoming. 20 00:04:30.990 --> 00:04:44.070 So very quickly about the fellows program. We developed the graduate Fellows Program this past year to engage early career scholars who are poised to become sustainable agriculture and food systems leaders. 21 00:04:44.640 --> 00:04:57.780 This is the pilot year of the program, which was open to scholars from historically black colleges and universities, also known as HBCUs and tribal colleges and universities, also known as TCUs. 22 00:04:58.470 --> 00:05:12.180 And specifically we sought proposals from scholars, whose research and practice focused on examining racism and other forms of structural inequity in the US and beyond, in relation to food systems. 23 00:05:12.840 --> 00:05:18.480 As we are nearing the conclusion of this year's program. We will be assessing its success. 24 00:05:18.900 --> 00:05:30.450 And this analysis as well as some efforts to identify funding sources to sustain the program will contribute to our discussions about possible future programs. 25 00:05:31.200 --> 00:05:39.270 I expect to have more to details on whether and how we'll continue the graduate Fellows program into the future. Hopefully later this summer. 26 00:05:40.650 --> 00:05:51.030 So turning to today's presentations. And just a quick reminder for anybody who has joined late. I am recording the webinar and I will share 27 00:05:51.600 --> 00:06:02.580 This link to others in the future as well as you/ Without further ado, I would like to introduce the first fellow and turn the webinar over to Monyai Chavers. 28 00:06:02.970 --> 00:06:15.030 Who is a master student at Howard University and just FYI, we may have like 10 or 15 seconds as we switch controls. Perfect. I'm going to go on mute. Now, 29 00:06:34.320 --> 00:06:36.930 Greetings. Can everyone hear me okay 30 00:06:42.390 --> 00:06:53.790 I am Monyai Chavers, a recent graduate of Howard University with an MA in political science, international relations was my major area of study with a minor in black politics. 31 00:06:54.150 --> 00:07:03.450 Since I traveled to Liberia on a study abroad trip in 2014 I became interested in the relationship between landing here and food security. 32 00:07:03.870 --> 00:07:15.000 Primarily my research consists of analyzing Liberia's new land rights act by using the participatory social learning theory developed by Almaz Zewde as an analytical tool. 33 00:07:16.410 --> 00:07:18.600 So you may ask, why does this matter. 34 00:07:19.170 --> 00:07:30.810 The United Nations committee on World Food Security defines food security as people having physical, social and economic access to sufficient safe and nutritious food. 35 00:07:31.050 --> 00:07:36.630 That meets their food preferences and dietary needs for an active and healthy life at all times. 36 00:07:37.080 --> 00:07:46.860 According to the economic commission in Africa, food security and poverty reduction cannot be achieved unless issues of access to land and security of tenure. 37 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:52.290 And the capacity to use land productively in a sustainable manner is addressed. 38 00:07:52.890 --> 00:07:59.010 Sustainable Development Goals also incorporate security attending tenure as an indicator 39 00:07:59.370 --> 00:08:09.420 They state security of tenure is the certainty that a person's rights to land will be recognized by others and protected in cases of specific challenges. 40 00:08:09.780 --> 00:08:18.750 People with insecure tenure, face the risk that their rights to land will be threatened by competing claims and even lost as a result of eviction. 41 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:32.400 As I stated earlier, my research focus is primarily in Liberia. It's located on the western coast of Africa. The American Colonization Society established the colony of Liberia in 1822 42 00:08:32.760 --> 00:08:45.000 By sending free blacks to the country the actions of ACS created a divisive society and due to the notion of superiority exercised by the American Liberians 43 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:59.190 Eventually the country gained independence in 1847 and established the Republic of Liberia. As you can see from this map the entire country is covered in purple, meaning moderate chronic food insecurity. 44 00:08:59.700 --> 00:09:14.820 Moderate means that in a coming year households have ongoing mild deficits in food quantity and or seasonal full quantity deficits for two to four months of the year and consistently do not consume a diet of adequate quality. 45 00:09:15.300 --> 00:09:28.440 Household livelihoods are marginally sustainable and resilience to shocks is very limited. For example, the Ebola crisis devastated the country and also affected the food security of those there. 46 00:09:30.270 --> 00:09:40.470 just a little background information about Liberia, they've had two civil wars. It resulted in over 250,000 deaths and the displacement of over 1 billion people. 47 00:09:40.740 --> 00:09:56.160 and this definitely affected their food security, based on data from the comprehensive food security and nutrition survey conducted in 2018 16% of the population is moderately food insecure and 2% severely food insecure. 48 00:09:56.580 --> 00:10:08.370 Also food insecurity disproportionately affects rural areas with 2.3% of rural households being food insecure compared to 11% of urban households. 49 00:10:08.760 --> 00:10:22.500 as you can see 3.3 million people living in rural areas governed by customary land laws are deprived of access to natural resources and the ability to engage in productive and profitable farming practices. 50 00:10:23.820 --> 00:10:28.350 There are a few structural challenges that prevents Liberia for providing 51 00:10:29.790 --> 00:10:45.270 secure access to land and adequate food for their citizens. For example, they have a dual land tenure; a dual land tenure doesn't necessarily mean that there will always be issues, especially if there are effective measurements in order to 52 00:10:45.960 --> 00:11:00.390 Handle both systems. Liberia's land system is comprised of statutory law, which provides the legal framework for Land and Natural Resources and customary law is defined from governance of local lineage based practices. 53 00:11:00.990 --> 00:11:10.380 In practice customary land is viewed as public land and the government issues concessions to foreign investors, which results in the displacement of many rural Liberians 54 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:19.560 For example, 57% of the country's 9.5 million acres have been conceded to foreign companies and that's from the government 's commission in 2015 55 00:11:20.130 --> 00:11:35.460 Firestone as we all know, assumed the role as the largest producer in Liberia with a million acre concession, leading to 35% of wage and salaried workers being employed on either two of the corporation's plantations by 1955 56 00:11:35.940 --> 00:11:45.030 Women are provided more rights under statutory law than customary because of the patri-local mayor system and power imbalances in customary practices. 57 00:11:45.300 --> 00:11:54.450 The governor's commission of Liberia acknowledges the land alienation experienced by women, even though they represent the largest producers of food in the country. 58 00:11:55.560 --> 00:12:03.330 So I use the participatory Social Learning Theory, as I said before, developed by. Almaz Zewde, a professor at Howard University. 59 00:12:04.140 --> 00:12:16.080 As an analytical tool to analyze the Land Rights Act of Liberia. The PSLT highlights the importance of field-level action and knowledge manifested locally for 60 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:25.890 Goal driven outcomes. It's comprised of five driving imperatives: institution, human resources. Natural Resources, technology and investment capital. 61 00:12:26.130 --> 00:12:40.080 However, for my evaluation I concentrated on the institutional imperative, which will provide space for the other four imperatives to actualize, in particular the human resource imperative which incorporates the aspects of nutrition. 62 00:12:41.790 --> 00:12:48.720 Liberia's land rights act provides the rights and application obligations of each land category. 63 00:12:49.050 --> 00:13:00.780 And the process in which land can be acquired within each classification, it was passed on September fourth by the 54th legislature. The act defines, as I said before, four different types of land. 64 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:09.420 It applies to all land and the government is considered the sovereign authority overland and is responsible for the protection and enforcement of land rights. 65 00:13:09.780 --> 00:13:22.590 It acknowledges the history of unwritten customary norms and practices such as oral traditions which is very important because of the the vast amount of people living in customary land in Liberia. 66 00:13:25.680 --> 00:13:35.280 So based on the description of the institutional imperative I mainly focused on pinpointing the functions and the role of the government throughout the act. 67 00:13:35.610 --> 00:13:43.260 And also customary language is significant. It was of significant importance due to the previous issues I mentioned before. 68 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:57.870 For customary land, community is the highest decision making body and has the power by two thirds vote to approve the role of the government throughout the act. Customary Land was of significant importance of course due to previous 69 00:13:59.400 --> 00:14:09.690 Previous issues I mentioned, a two thirds vote to approve the sale, lease or transfer of customary land to the government or non community members is of extreme importance and 70 00:14:10.680 --> 00:14:19.710 Customary land owners or the community can divide land into different categories such as residential agricultural commercial and industrial areas. 71 00:14:19.920 --> 00:14:37.470 They also reserve the right and responsibility to identify community members and no community member may be excluded from the community, which is important for women and divorce. The government will conduct a Confirmatory survey survey by way of the Liberia land authority. 72 00:14:39.090 --> 00:14:43.590 In order to determine the size and boundaries of the land in each community. 73 00:14:43.890 --> 00:14:54.450 The Liberian land authority plays a significant role in a successful implementation of this Act because it handles land governance land administration and land use functions. 74 00:14:54.990 --> 00:15:02.520 The community land development and management committee will establish a land management plan for each community. 75 00:15:02.850 --> 00:15:14.460 And transfers of residential areas to community members will be confirmed, issued, and formalized by a deed from the CLDMC or the community lead development and management committee. 76 00:15:16.530 --> 00:15:25.890 They will also work with local government officials and the government will provide sufficient and adequate resources to carry out test concession. 77 00:15:26.730 --> 00:15:34.170 areas within customary land shower main subject to concession until the entire period of their existing terms and conditions. 78 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:42.270 Inputs and concerns of communities will be presented through the CLDMC for view of concessions located on customary land. 79 00:15:42.750 --> 00:15:58.860 And women residential areas are entitled. So, community members, irrespective of gender, which may potentially address some discriminatory practices against women, but it's very important for them to keep an eye on that particular mechanism. 80 00:15:59.580 --> 00:16:07.650 Overall, the government will play a vast role in ensuring this act is is implemented successfully. 81 00:16:09.210 --> 00:16:21.360 And the role of Liberia and the role of the Liberian government, excuse me, and Liberia land authority is very important and the relationship they have with each other will only 82 00:16:23.040 --> 00:16:26.580 Work if they have accountability and transparency. 83 00:16:27.090 --> 00:16:34.860 Within their communication government collaboration with the community land development and management community is extremely important because 84 00:16:35.130 --> 00:16:42.510 The committee will get majority of their resources from the government. So if the government is not successful in implementing this Act, it would just 85 00:16:43.050 --> 00:16:58.020 It would detriment customary land owners. Relationship between the Community and the CLDMC is also important because the CLDMC will work for free. They will work on a pro bono basis. So it's very important for the community to 86 00:16:58.620 --> 00:17:11.280 Have a very positive relationship with that committee and implementation to prevent exclusionary practices against women should be analyzed. Further, as I said, because it gets tricky when it comes to 87 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:24.810 Gender and residential areas, especially in a society that has the patrilineal inheritance. So I think all of these mechanisms will provide 88 00:17:25.530 --> 00:17:34.800 provide room for future research. I plan to use this research for my dissertation. Once I I am 89 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:52.050 In a doctoral program, but overall I plan to use this research for my dissertation and I would like to track the progress of the land rights act since its implementation, which was back in September 2018 90 00:17:52.440 --> 00:18:06.180 And least for four or five years just to see its impact on food security and also its impact on secure providing secure access to land for all Liberians. Thank you for listening. And that concludes my presentation. 91 00:18:07.890 --> 00:18:14.880 Thank you, Monyai for sharing your work. As a reminder, will engage in some general Q and A following all the presentations. 92 00:18:15.210 --> 00:18:30.660 At this time I'd like to introduce Lindsay Lunsford she is a doctoral student and a resource specialist working at Tuskegee University and I know right now she is working on getting her screen up so just give it a couple seconds. 93 00:18:48.870 --> 00:18:52.680 Okay, hello everyone. Sorry, I have a little issue unmuted myself. 94 00:18:53.370 --> 00:19:01.260 Yes. And so my name is Lindsay Lunsford I'm based here at Tuskegee University in Tuskegee, Alabama Macon County. 95 00:19:01.560 --> 00:19:11.220 And my presentation today will I will try to tell a little bit or I will tell a little bit of the story of the Alabama black belt food systems. 96 00:19:11.850 --> 00:19:29.490 As a sustainable food system resource specialist for Tuskegee University. So what does that mean, who am I - I break this presentation down in basically four archetypes: the woman, the place, the people and the network. So an introduction to the woman Lindsay, so I am a 97 00:19:30.600 --> 00:19:38.370 resource specialist here at Tuskegee University. And so basically what that entails is I work at building bridges and networks. 98 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:50.670 Between all sectors of the food system and my conception of the food system is everything from seed to stomach like a big part of my work is also focused on consumption. 99 00:19:50.910 --> 00:20:00.450 Getting people to actually eat the food and everything that comes along that process and what levers. I look at the food system, quite literally, as anyone would look at a body. 100 00:20:01.500 --> 00:20:07.890 An interesting and intricate entity that has to flow and everything has to work together so 101 00:20:08.580 --> 00:20:18.510 a part of the things that make this body flow are policy. I am a PhD student just finished up with my coursework and into my dissertation. 102 00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:28.290 In the public policy and development program here at Tuskegee. It is an integrated program. So we learn across different disciplines and we're mentored 103 00:20:29.040 --> 00:20:33.840 My mentors are Dr. Robert Zabawa and Dr. Raymon Shange and they 104 00:20:34.230 --> 00:20:44.610 Come from different sectors and so it really, really helps to be able to see how policy, the laws, the things that govern people are so transverse and so cross cutting 105 00:20:44.940 --> 00:20:50.100 And I, am at the illustrious Tuskegee University. I went here for undergrad as well. 106 00:20:50.880 --> 00:21:04.320 Monyai and I actually used to go to school together like back in the day, I should say. I went here for undergrad and I just stayed. I got planted in this beautiful red Alabama clay and my roots just just lifted me here. 107 00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:11.670 My grandparents met at Tuskegee in the 40s. My mom always makes me shout that out but I'm pretty much really love this place. 108 00:21:12.060 --> 00:21:18.780 Through and through. It's a beautiful place. And it has some really interesting history and I want to share a little bit about that with you. 109 00:21:19.470 --> 00:21:33.420 So, the place, the Alabama black belt. Welcome to the south. What do you know about the South. If you're on if you're from the south. Go ahead and shout out and in the chat box, now is your time Southern folk because this 110 00:21:33.810 --> 00:21:42.720 This presentation is really about the South. My work is rooted in the South, and if you're from the black belt. If you're from a black belt County, please go ahead and shout that out in the chat box. 111 00:21:43.290 --> 00:21:52.950 A lot of people don't know what a black belt is besides karate. They don't understand that millions of people live there and they bear the brunt of this nation. 112 00:21:53.430 --> 00:22:08.940 They deal with the highest end instances of poverty obesity and so many other preventable diseases and the South is a place of historic and enduring poverty right historic and enduring let that be known. 113 00:22:09.510 --> 00:22:23.970 The South is also home to the largest demographic region in the US. Did you know that the largest demographic region in the US is in the South, it's home to one third of the nation's population and one half- 114 00:22:24.450 --> 00:22:36.360 50% of the nation's poverty is located in the South. So when it comes to dealing with real issues, the people that I work with here at Tuskegee and across Cooperative Extension. 115 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:52.410 really deal with the people that are what you would consider the lowest of the low or the most, not even the grassroots the soil, the clay, the people that are really, really dealing with and have always dealt with the worst that we have had to hand out as a nation. 116 00:22:52.980 --> 00:23:00.180 So Tuskegee University. A lot of people don't know Cooperative Extension- a trivia question. Where was it born? 117 00:23:00.630 --> 00:23:07.140 You could guess the black belt and Tuskegee University then Tuskegee Institute says, Be specific. 118 00:23:07.320 --> 00:23:14.010 A lot of people do not know that cooperative extension or I should say more people should know that Cooperative Extension was born in 119 00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:27.960 Alabama and it was born at Tuskegee with the first Cooperative Extension Agent Thomas Monroe Campbell. He was an African American man. I work a lot with disparity issues of diversity, equity inclusion and in 120 00:23:28.770 --> 00:23:36.090 Cooperative Extension. And I'll talk a little bit more about that later. But I just really want to root, that put that fact out there because 121 00:23:36.390 --> 00:23:42.390 Cooperative Extension is the largest community development organization in America. And it's important to understand 122 00:23:42.540 --> 00:23:53.820 That it got that way because it dealt its origins dealt really trying to deal with people that just came out of the overthrows of slavery and enslavement, human enslavement. 123 00:23:54.060 --> 00:24:05.460 That's why it's called the Black Belt. So it's called the Black Belt and our founder Booker T. Washington, the founder of Tuskegee University actually coined this term. It was originally a political, an agricultural term. 124 00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:18.690 And then it became a political term the Black belt is the region of America, it's over 600 counties spanning from Virginia, Texas, this right here, this image on the right is the eight are the 18 counties in Alabama. 125 00:24:19.290 --> 00:24:23.910 That are considered Black Belt counties and in these 18 counties. 126 00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:39.840 Why it was called the Black Belt is it was home to the most rich, beautiful soil, the soil was so beautiful and it grew vegetables so amazing that the soil was literally black so of course that drew settlers that, well settlers quote unquote "colonizers" and 127 00:24:40.530 --> 00:24:41.970 plantation owners and 128 00:24:42.270 --> 00:24:55.260 That is where eventually because the soil was so rich. This is also where the Choctaw and so many different tribes like Tuskegee Indian tribes were forcibly removed from this land because this land had been inherited since 129 00:24:55.440 --> 00:25:06.990 Before Christ on in some of that counties of the black belt. They found archives archaeological pottery that exists. Before Christ. People were dwelling in these lands because of how rich the soil was 130 00:25:07.560 --> 00:25:18.450 They were removed from that land and then that brought in slaves so many slaves are brought to this area that eventually the black belt was called the Black Belt because of the people and not because of the land. And today, it's still 131 00:25:18.630 --> 00:25:25.620 Considered that because all of these counties are unique in that they have a higher black population than they do a white population. 132 00:25:25.890 --> 00:25:34.470 And so it became a political term during the 60s, and so forth. So that's a brief overview in history of where we are and where Cooperative Extension comes from 133 00:25:34.620 --> 00:25:42.810 And how we deal with these issues across the black belt of structural racism and disparity and structural in that their institutional because they followed 134 00:25:43.530 --> 00:25:51.630 Literal institutions of enslavement and the fight and the good work that's always been done in these areas towards equity and justice. 135 00:25:52.440 --> 00:26:02.910 And so that's the place. And so let's talk about the people who's been fighting this fight. And so as I began framing my research, I wanted to start with a community based participatory approach. 136 00:26:03.600 --> 00:26:10.020 Or community based participatory research as a black researcher. What that means for me. And so I would 137 00:26:10.320 --> 00:26:23.160 Suggest that text black participatory research for any black researcher that wants to look at a black participatory approach and what that means, what it means to show up in this research as a black person. 138 00:26:24.360 --> 00:26:37.320 And it's, um, it was really helpful to help me understand how to frame this work. And so I began doing agent interviews and the man in the right is Mr. Walter Baldwin. He's recently retired and he worked 139 00:26:38.010 --> 00:26:42.540 at Tuskegee Cooperative Extension as an agent for over 46 years 140 00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:50.880 So it was really, really great to sit down and interview. Mr. Baldwin and learn about his work and some of the eye opening things that I learned through his work. 141 00:26:51.060 --> 00:26:58.020 He actually worked in Lowndes County, which is a black belt county when he began as a young 27 year old man, and at this time. 142 00:26:58.230 --> 00:27:04.950 sharecroppers, and people that were forcibly removed from their land for participating participating in voting, a few years. 143 00:27:05.070 --> 00:27:14.880 In the Voting Rights Act, a few years before were still living in tents. He was actually the county agent, when there was a what's called tent city there are multiple cities, but this is the one that was in 144 00:27:15.090 --> 00:27:27.390 Lowndes County. So he actually began his work and having to work with communities that were living in such unbelievable conditions, just for wanting to seek, you know, the full democratic process so 145 00:27:28.020 --> 00:27:36.450 One of the things he told me that was in 1976 he went to a courthouse in one of the counties in Alabama. And it was actually still segregated. 146 00:27:37.110 --> 00:27:44.130 There was a colored and a white entrance on the courthouse and the county, just the, the local laws and 147 00:27:44.490 --> 00:27:53.070 Way people operated it was still segregated. So I got to learn about the way race influenced the food system and influenced the way people operated 148 00:27:53.910 --> 00:28:03.450 Also began doing some public dialogue processes and understanding that through the Tuskegee public dialogue team and you can find some more information about that. 149 00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:14.370 The process of amplification and the need to tell stories. So the network, who do I do this work with- you can't do this work alone. You cannot work in isolation. 150 00:28:14.760 --> 00:28:18.240 When you're really trying to do systems work. A lot of times I've experienced 151 00:28:19.080 --> 00:28:27.000 The issues with silos. So these are some of this is a reflection of my network and other ways you can find me and plug into my work so 152 00:28:27.660 --> 00:28:40.530 I'm also a committee member on the racial equity in the food systems or REFS as we like to call it working group and we produce webinars and we have an equity food listserv that you can plug into if you're at all interested in racial equity work and its 153 00:28:40.800 --> 00:28:49.500 Intersection with the food system. I'm also a fellow for the eXtension diversity, equity, and inclusion so extension. We have a field book. The first one was 154 00:28:50.010 --> 00:29:03.540 Produced by Dr. Shitomi Lester Edwards from the University of Missouri extension and I'm working on version two. So if you have any good resources that you think the nation should know of when it comes to diversity, equity inclusion, please. 155 00:29:03.810 --> 00:29:11.700 we'll be given out some links. So just stop by the site, you can go to suggest the resource and add those also work with Dr. Christine Porter on the 156 00:29:12.570 --> 00:29:23.190 Journal for Agriculture, Food Systems Community Development shareholder consortium equity and inclusion committee. I know that's a lot of words. But we really just call it not just another equity COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. 157 00:29:24.210 --> 00:29:35.970 And also participated in the coming together the racial understanding inaugural training, these pictures on the right shows a nation-full of folks that are committed to this work across extension. 158 00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:52.470 And this INFAS graduate fellowship, so thankful for this opportunity to unite and work with other people and also you can catch me on some keynotes and some speeches got some of those coming up this year. So I thank you for this time, and I will now pass it over. 159 00:29:54.060 --> 00:30:03.210 Great. Thank you so much. Lindsay, I appreciate your giving us a description of your work and your I'm looking forward to the outcomes of your further 160 00:30:03.780 --> 00:30:14.490 Interviews and analysis. Just a reminder, I'm recording this. I'll be sharing it later, along with some of the resources that the fellows are referring to 161 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:29.610 And we'll do some general Q and A following the presentations. So at this point, last but not least, I wanted to introduce our final fellow who's Kimberly Carr, and she is currently finishing up her doctorate at Tuskegee University. 162 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.170 Can everyone hear me or see my screen. 163 00:30:53.850 --> 00:30:58.140 I can see it. Kimberly maybe put it in presenter mode or slideshow. 164 00:30:58.710 --> 00:30:59.010 Oh, 165 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:00.810 Wait. 166 00:31:02.790 --> 00:31:03.780 Oh, it's the little 167 00:31:04.950 --> 00:31:10.320 Icon near the 50% sign up the bottom that little. I don't know what to call it. 168 00:31:11.040 --> 00:31:14.100 Okay, what about now. Can you see 169 00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:17.220 Can you see me on the screen. 170 00:31:17.580 --> 00:31:22.290 I can see the screen. You can also go to View. 171 00:31:25.770 --> 00:31:28.080 And see, make sure to take over. 172 00:31:28.080 --> 00:31:28.620 Control. 173 00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:32.640 What about now. 174 00:31:33.450 --> 00:31:33.930 Perfect. 175 00:31:34.140 --> 00:31:47.100 You got it. You see it. Okay, thank you everyone for bearing with me. My name is Kimberly Carr. I am a PhD candidate in the integrated Biosciences PhD program here at Tuskegee University. 176 00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:55.080 And I have accepted an offer with Michigan State University Center for regional food systems and center for interdisciplinarity 177 00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:04.950 So the title of my presentation for this afternoon is health disparities food insecurity and environmental justice among United States black adults. 178 00:32:05.610 --> 00:32:12.120 So this is my presentation outline. I'm going to give a very brief overview of my doctoral research. 179 00:32:12.510 --> 00:32:21.030 The background and purpose and the implications of my work on structural racism in the food system. So I'm going to start off with the definitions. 180 00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:24.390 For the context of my work: health disparities. 181 00:32:24.930 --> 00:32:34.200 Is the systematic potentially avoidable differences in health or the major socially determinant influences on health between groups of people who have different relative positions. 182 00:32:34.530 --> 00:32:45.450 In social hierarchies, According to wealth, power and prestige. Health disparities oftentimes are described as health differences between social economic groups social 183 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:52.260 Status here with this definition, it signifies ethical adjustments, such as fairness and justice. 184 00:32:52.740 --> 00:33:00.270 So the definition of food insecurity that I'm using for my work is from the United States Department of Agriculture, who reference 185 00:33:00.780 --> 00:33:08.310 Anderson and food insecurity for my work is defined as the limited or uncertain ability availability of nutritionally adequate. 186 00:33:08.670 --> 00:33:15.120 safe foods or limited or uncertain ability to acquire acceptable foods in socially acceptable ways 187 00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:23.520 And here, my study I defined the environment using Dr. Robert Bullard who is also known as the father of environmental justice. 188 00:33:23.910 --> 00:33:35.160 And his definition of environment that's all encompassing where people live, work, play, older school as well as how things interact with the physical and natural world. 189 00:33:35.430 --> 00:33:42.420 So a little bit of more background. So there is a plausible association between environmental injustices like toxic releases, 190 00:33:42.750 --> 00:33:52.920 Food insecurity and health disparities. However, it is very difficult to scientifically verify concern and discern. And that's because of measurement issues. 191 00:33:53.670 --> 00:33:57.600 Trans-disciplinary language and how you operationalize the variables. 192 00:33:58.230 --> 00:34:10.920 Health Disparities, such as diabetes are disproportionately higher in low income and minority populations and toxic chemical release and other environmental justice issues are historically higher 193 00:34:11.250 --> 00:34:18.330 in communities of color and low income populations. If you direct your attention now to the bottom. These are some key studies. 194 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:26.070 That discuss health disparities discuss environmental justice- so the very first one is the 1985 195 00:34:27.390 --> 00:34:39.870 Report of the task force on black and minority health and this is also known as the Heckler Report. It was the first report to document the differences and health specifically excess deaths 196 00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:53.250 among black and some other minority populations. And what this study this report found was that there were 60,000, more than 80% excess deaths that were observed among blacks. 197 00:34:53.850 --> 00:35:00.360 And another minority groups, compared to the non Hispanic white population. And if you go to the fourth. 198 00:35:01.050 --> 00:35:08.040 article it says, What if we would equal a comparison of this black white mortality gap in 1963 and 2000, 199 00:35:08.430 --> 00:35:16.350 That was a study conducted by David Satcher in 2005 and David Satcher is one of the former Surgeon generals of the United States. 200 00:35:16.710 --> 00:35:27.210 And what they found was that the 60,000 deaths that were in 1985 have risen to 83,000 preventable excess deaths so 201 00:35:27.720 --> 00:35:39.600 The next article is toxic waste and race and this study came from implication of the environmental justice movement in 1982 which was the 202 00:35:40.080 --> 00:35:54.510 Birth of environmental justice movement started in 1982 with the Warren County, North Carolina protest of a toxic waste facility being cited in a predominantly African American and rural county 203 00:35:55.680 --> 00:36:06.570 And what they found was that this chemical company ended up dumping about 30,000 square square cubic yards of polychlorinated biphenyls 204 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:22.410 And research have shown a lot of epidemiological studies have shown that polychlorinated biphenyls and dioxins are associated with diabetes. So those toxic release and at the very end is the toxic waste and race at 20 205 00:36:23.430 --> 00:36:36.780 Is an update of the 19 I'm sorry 1987 report of toxic waste and race and that was conducted by the United Church of Christ and that study of toxic waste and race was the first study 206 00:36:37.620 --> 00:36:57.060 To look at the correlation between commercial or hazardous waste sites and demographic factors. And what they found was that race, race was the most significant predictor and predicting the the siting of a commercial hazardous waste site versus land values and home ownership. 207 00:36:58.140 --> 00:37:10.410 So Lindsey did excellent job talking about the southern black belt so I'm not going to belabor that so the non-hispanic black population, the United States. 208 00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:21.480 The southern black bill, it's about 11 states. And if you look very closely, you can see the black belt that Lindsay was discussing and like 209 00:37:22.230 --> 00:37:33.840 Lindsay said it was at first. People want to say the, the very rich fertile fall, but it really had to do with the concentration of blacks after the Civil War and the Emancipation Proclamation. 210 00:37:34.140 --> 00:37:53.460 And you have this large number of free blacks and there's a little debate, I want to say a debate now of the term, Lindsay's correct Booker T. Washington, used the term as the southern black belt as well W.E.B. Du Bois and he discussed the in terms of 211 00:37:54.480 --> 00:38:12.210 sociologically so if you draw your attention to the very first one on diabetes. If you look, this is the diabetes belt, the diabetes belt is about 15 states and in the diabetes belt area has increased likelihood of type two diabetes and it is 212 00:38:13.380 --> 00:38:21.870 More likely for African Americans to be in the diabetes belt and again just draw your attention to the very first first diagram or map. 213 00:38:22.950 --> 00:38:35.520 And then the next one is food insecurity. So if you look at food security near the average of the US average and look at food insecurity above the United States average 214 00:38:36.510 --> 00:38:44.220 You just kind of start seeing a little bit of association here just looking at it for face value, for validity. 215 00:38:44.640 --> 00:38:50.940 And this next one is next diagram is from the Environmental Protection Agency is the Toxic Release Inventory. 216 00:38:51.390 --> 00:39:04.800 And talk to release inventory is a pretty cool tool. You get to see what companies are releasing toxins in your in your area. So you can type in your zip code and you can see oh this company 217 00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:15.090 released this chemical, but the thing is with that is it's voluntary. So they, the companies are not mandated to report their toxic release. 218 00:39:16.050 --> 00:39:24.360 And what all these have in common, these different geographical maps is non-Hispanic black adults have the second highest rate of diabetes. 219 00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:40.020 The highest is Native Americans American Indians, Alaska Natives, the highest rate of food insecurity, which is that 21.8% and historically disproportionate chemical exposure compared to other racial and ethnic groups. 220 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:47.790 So the purpose of my work is to examine association between health disparities, food insecurity and environmental justice among 221 00:39:48.090 --> 00:39:54.000 Non-hispanic black adults in the United States and the health disparity that I'm using is diabetes. 222 00:39:54.540 --> 00:40:03.330 Studies have shown that diabetes is linked to food insecurity and environmental injustice and environmental injustice that I'm looking at is toxic releases 223 00:40:03.930 --> 00:40:11.550 That are known to be associated with diabetes, like polychlorinated biphenols and your dioxins and your 224 00:40:12.120 --> 00:40:19.560 Different pesticides like hexochlorobenzene and those such and it's a mixed methods study. So I'm going to move on to 225 00:40:20.370 --> 00:40:35.160 The implications of my doctoral research on structural racism in the food system. And I want to make two points. One is alleviating food insecurity, using a deficit model versus an asset model approach and the role of community asset mapping 226 00:40:35.700 --> 00:40:45.150 alleviating food insecurity, the deficit model, it focuses on the identification of problems and needs of a community neighborhood or population and 227 00:40:45.540 --> 00:40:51.900 For people or researchers or maybe nonprofit organizations or other scholars that 228 00:40:52.500 --> 00:40:58.620 Are doing food insecurity work and trying to understand the population, you're probably end up doing a needs assessment. 229 00:40:59.070 --> 00:41:07.590 But one of the problems with using a deficit model is that you think of the questions like, what is the problem of what is missing, what is lacking. 230 00:41:07.860 --> 00:41:21.660 And then after a while, you know, you think you know what the answer is like ah, that's what it is, and you start to slowly move into that moral dimension of, you know, what's wrong with them? And why can't they get it right? So needs assessment, 231 00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:26.430 Environmental Scans, they're great, you know, you get to identify the problem but 232 00:41:26.790 --> 00:41:36.420 One of the implications of that is policy implications. And one example of that would be like your federal assistance or food assistance programs and food banks. 233 00:41:36.630 --> 00:41:44.700 Which are helpful. However, it's only looking at it from a deficit of what is wrong versus that asset model, which was 234 00:41:45.450 --> 00:41:57.330 Developed by two researchers Morgan and Ziglio, I have the reference down below, and it focuses on the positive protective factors or the assets of a community or neighborhood or 235 00:41:57.570 --> 00:42:07.200 Population. So you're looking at people's gifts. So instead of asking what's the problem you're asking what factors enable a community to be resilient against food insecurity. 236 00:42:07.410 --> 00:42:16.230 What factors will these, how will these factors, reduce food insecurity, and how would this community or neighborhood achieve food sovereignty. 237 00:42:17.310 --> 00:42:31.080 And "health assets" refer to any factor or resource which enhances the ability of an individual's, community's, ability to sustain that health and well being. So if you identify the assets that value, the culture. 238 00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:42.690 Of the community, you know, and given the empowerment that is needed, they can create their own culture of food sovereignty food justice. 239 00:42:43.080 --> 00:42:59.940 acceptability of food. So pretty much, making them very autonomous and making them very sovereign. So examples of that would be community gardens, you know, generational resilient social capital empowerment, food forests, and something a new term that I learned food oasis. So the role 240 00:43:01.050 --> 00:43:06.990 The role of community asset mapping. This is one of the tools that the asset model 241 00:43:07.500 --> 00:43:17.130 Implies as a, you know, you can use it this community asset model helps with brainstorming, you can identify local resources and community partnerships. 242 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:24.180 You can recognize the culture, value and talents and you can seek to build sustainable relationships and connections. So again, 243 00:43:24.540 --> 00:43:37.530 Finding what is in the community. Because again, with food insecurity, the community, the populations, the neighborhoods they have to be eating something, you know, they're not starving. They're eating something so it's a great 244 00:43:37.980 --> 00:43:49.020 Tool to see what's there and to see the assets of that community and amplify it and I believe if you can amplify it then you can find a way of of 245 00:43:51.180 --> 00:43:52.080 helping 246 00:43:53.310 --> 00:44:14.520 So the way I look at it is availability. Can I get it, is it there. Accessibility. Can I get to it and Acceptability: do accept the services or the food that's being offered to me. So thank you for my presentation. This is my contact information and I'm open to questions later. 247 00:44:15.780 --> 00:44:22.290 Thank you. Thank you. Kimberly, actually, we're going to, we're going to go back to you for the 248 00:44:22.710 --> 00:44:25.950 Last slide because we're going to now at this point as we 249 00:44:26.250 --> 00:44:35.010 Finished the three presentations. We're going to have each of you share your insights to the question that I posed to you, which was 250 00:44:35.610 --> 00:44:44.670 For you to consider in your perspectives and your, in your opinion, what should food system scholars and practitioners from outside the HBCU system. 251 00:44:44.940 --> 00:44:57.150 Be aware of and or actions to take with respect to structural racism in the food system. And I'll just go ahead and start with you since your slides are already up and I think you have it as your final slide. 252 00:44:57.390 --> 00:45:03.060 Yes, so let me. Can you see it now. I'm still trying to 253 00:45:04.230 --> 00:45:07.380 Okay, you see if you can see it. Okay. 254 00:45:13.830 --> 00:45:17.280 We can we can see it. It's just like we can see all your little slides on the side. 255 00:45:17.700 --> 00:45:19.020 Here we go ahead and got 256 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:20.070 All right. 257 00:45:20.160 --> 00:45:40.380 Thank you so much. Okay. So insight-Joanna has already set the question. And again, my insight, would be to utilize the asset model and community asset mapping. Like, for example, even though I didn't use the community asset mapping in my work, I had the opportunity to 258 00:45:42.600 --> 00:45:54.570 intern at a community food pantry in Alabama and while they didn't specifically use the community asset map. What is so great about this food pantry. 259 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.800 And it's a food pantry program of the food bank of East Alabama. 260 00:45:59.130 --> 00:46:12.090 Is the fact that not only are they providing food. They also providing you know resources. The churches got together the local businesses got together corporations like WalMart got together, you know, and donated food. 261 00:46:12.600 --> 00:46:20.250 Another thing that makes me think of is you have to understand your mission and/or purpose in the food work system or the food systems work 262 00:46:20.490 --> 00:46:32.430 Like is it charity or social social justice. So charity, it refers to helping those in need. That can go into giving your time, that can go to giving the talent that can go for 263 00:46:32.790 --> 00:46:40.110 Giving your money, but the thing is: charity makes you feel good. It really does. It makes you feel good, you know, you're helping people but 264 00:46:40.560 --> 00:46:49.260 charity really doesn't do anything to overcome, you know, structural inequities or structural inequalities, you know, as charity is short term, 265 00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:59.610 Is for immediate need unlike social justice and I like how these authors define social justice as the full participation in society. 266 00:46:59.910 --> 00:47:09.480 And the balancing of benefits and burdens of all citizens, resulting in equitable living and a just ordering of society and the difference with social justice. 267 00:47:10.200 --> 00:47:21.300 Versus charity, is that social justice is a long term and it assumes autonomy, it promotes social change, it promotes sovereignty. So I think there's something that we should 268 00:47:22.140 --> 00:47:37.500 Consider as we go forth in you know food systems work charity vs social justice because the goal is to make sure that citizens and people are autonomous, even though we know there are barriers there. 269 00:47:38.700 --> 00:47:54.210 And the last one is understand that historically black colleges, universities HBCUs, are grounded in an environment where structural racism manifests, not only in the food system. and that is my insight. 270 00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:02.400 Great. Thank you so much. Kimberly Monyai. Let's get your final slide up if you can get that going. 271 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:21.900 So the two points that I want to touch on about structural racism in the food system that I think is beneficial. 272 00:48:22.290 --> 00:48:30.720 Are one: the idea of hegemonic. Well, the concept of hegemonic ideas that dictate how systems should operate. 273 00:48:31.260 --> 00:48:37.830 and are seen as common sense in development discourse, despite the challenges that they have been 274 00:48:38.340 --> 00:48:59.190 noted with. I think that it's important for researchers, activists, scholars, developers to know that there are alternative methods to development discourse. There isn't one way of doing things. And I think that a culture has been created that certain 275 00:49:00.210 --> 00:49:01.860 Certain experts or 276 00:49:02.970 --> 00:49:14.550 Certain experts opinions is, is more valuable than those of like local people and which is why my second, ties into my second point of a culture of respect. 277 00:49:14.790 --> 00:49:20.460 I think it's important for international organizations to respect and acknowledge the culture within 278 00:49:20.970 --> 00:49:30.180 Local civil society organizations that they work with, especially in rural communities. I think that is important for international organizations to 279 00:49:30.540 --> 00:49:39.390 Be transparent and to be accountable and also to listen to the rural people when they have ideas about their own 280 00:49:40.170 --> 00:49:52.470 Have ideas or solutions about their own problems. Um, so yeah, that would just be the two things that I think is very beneficial in order to combat structural racism in the food system. 281 00:49:55.710 --> 00:50:04.620 Great, thank you. Monyai. And last but not least, Lindsay. Will you share your final thoughts before we go into just the some, well the Q and A section. 282 00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:11.340 Okay. 283 00:50:16.080 --> 00:50:27.870 Okay, so these are just a few quick points I want to share about, especially people working in extension and when it comes to the question of people working outside the HBCU system. 284 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:42.300 Just focusing on how the agencies, not just the agency system, but how land grant organizations perform so doing a little research if you don't already know about like the Smith lever lever act of 1914 which is established Cooperative Extension. 285 00:50:43.260 --> 00:50:51.270 Extension systems and then even going back before that, just how Cooperative Extension was established land grant 286 00:50:52.350 --> 00:51:06.390 But land grant but unequal state one to one matching funds for 1890 land grant universities. A lot of people don't know that land grant the HBCU land grants are not given their one to one state matching in many states. 287 00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:23.190 So that like an example combined 1890 land grant universities did not receive almost $57 million due to date not matching when they're legally required to and this has caused so much financial strain on 288 00:51:23.910 --> 00:51:35.100 Many, many HBC universities. And so when you talk about structural problems, literally, the way the law laws are not being followed, to the extent that millions of dollars are not coming into these counties. These 289 00:51:35.610 --> 00:51:42.990 Communities and these institutions and doing more research on that there's a good reference "Disparity" 290 00:51:43.680 --> 00:51:53.040 By Rupert Seals, Ron Wimberley Ronald Wimberley and Libby Morris and they also have to find out more about the black belt, they have a really good federal Commission. 291 00:51:53.640 --> 00:52:00.930 For the black belt and a lot of they did a lot of research on the black belt. Specifically, and why it needs its own federal commission, similar to 292 00:52:02.070 --> 00:52:08.820 ARD or any of the other research commissions. So moving on from that. 293 00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:15.030 I'm sorry. ARC Appalachian Regional Commission got my 294 00:52:16.170 --> 00:52:20.550 Acronyms messed up. But moving on from that, just like some quote to leave you all with 295 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:31.260 "You have to get over the fear of facing the worst in yourself. You have to get over the fear of facing the worst in yourself, you should instead fear unexamined racism. 296 00:52:31.650 --> 00:52:37.140 Fear the thought that right now. You could be contributing to the oppression of others and you don't know it. 297 00:52:37.950 --> 00:52:46.710 But do not fear those that bring oppression to like do not fear the opportunity to do better." and that comes from "So you want to talk about race" (Ijeoma Oluo) 298 00:52:47.010 --> 00:52:57.660 And really quickly. Guys, I have one more. Kimberly really sparked this, I really wanted to add this because we are three black women scholars and I know this is a surprise, but I just have to put this out here. I'm 299 00:52:57.870 --> 00:53:01.650 Defining freedom cannot amount to simply substituting it with inclusion. 300 00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:11.850 countering the criminalization of black girls requires fundamentally altering the relationship between black girls and the institutions of power that have worked to reinforce their subjugation. 301 00:53:12.180 --> 00:53:17.820 History has taught us that civil rights are but one component of a larger movement for this type of social transformation. 302 00:53:18.090 --> 00:53:26.160 Civil rights may be at the core of equal justice movements and they may elevate an equity agenda that protects our children from racial and gender discrimination. 303 00:53:26.370 --> 00:53:34.260 But they do not have the capacity to fully redistribute power and eradicate racial inequity. There's only one practice that can do that. Love. (Monique Morris) 304 00:53:34.500 --> 00:53:46.710 And that comes from Pushout: the criminalization of black girls. So we just wanted to leave you guys with that as black women researchers, the things that we face and the light that we bring. We hope it doesn't inspire fear, but rather victory. Thank you. 305 00:53:49.380 --> 00:54:04.470 Wow, thank you. Lindsay, thanks for thanks for wrapping up this this hour with some really powerful quotes I did get chills here. So I appreciate that. 306 00:54:05.040 --> 00:54:09.810 And I do want to thank all three of you for doing such a great job in your work and sharing your perspectives. 307 00:54:10.470 --> 00:54:17.340 Each of you are at different academic and professional stages and you've had different perspectives and so much to offer. And it's been 308 00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:25.230 A pleasure and my honor to work with each of you over the last year and I know you're inspiring so many people 309 00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:36.330 With the work that you're doing now and the work that you will be doing for the foreseeable future, and for I can tell long and exciting careers with 310 00:54:37.170 --> 00:54:45.300 Inspiration and social change. As a reminder for everyone, this webinar is being recorded. I will share it. And in the last few minutes 311 00:54:45.990 --> 00:54:59.880 that we have. I have a few questions that are in the Q and A box and based on what I can tell, I know a few of them are directed at particular folks and 312 00:55:00.570 --> 00:55:14.820 So I think I'll just start by asking a question here. Um, I'm going to just go ahead and ask this question, I think, Lindsay might be a person who could answer this one. 313 00:55:15.540 --> 00:55:25.350 The question's from Tasha, and the question says, I have a question about not working in silos. How do you deal with people who say 314 00:55:25.830 --> 00:55:43.950 They're not working in silos, but yet their collaborations still exclude black and indigenous people and Lindsay, maybe you can take a, take a thought on that, like what you might say to people, or what you might do what you might do with them. 315 00:55:45.120 --> 00:55:54.780 Thank you. Thank you for that question. Tasha, I saw pop up. So I have a few quick notes that I thought about and the biggest one that stuck out to me from your question was the word exclude 316 00:55:55.080 --> 00:56:03.960 So how are they excluding are they actively excluding are they implicitly excluding and I think maybe one could be work with and then one needs to be 317 00:56:04.770 --> 00:56:16.740 Both of them require a unique strategy if they're actively excluding that's a strategy, if they're implicitly excluding that's a strategy. So one thing I would look at why are they, not why but how are they excluding and then 318 00:56:17.610 --> 00:56:25.050 Also for people that might be doing this, wondering like, oh wait, am I, excluding because I look around. There aren't a lot of black, brown faces around me. Am I doing this. 319 00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:34.020 To question myself. I would look at, are you sharing decision making power with people of color like, you might be working with people of color, but are they 320 00:56:34.620 --> 00:56:43.590 Lateral with you. Are you sharing decision making power? and then also the, the notion of sharing power is unique in itself. Right. So those are the things that I kind of thought of. 321 00:56:45.570 --> 00:56:47.250 Yeah, that's what I had. Thank you. 322 00:56:47.970 --> 00:56:59.280 Thanks, Lindsay Monyai or Kimberly is this if this is something that you'd like to also weigh in on. I might have you muted. So I'm going to unmute now. 323 00:56:59.700 --> 00:57:00.360 No, I don't. 324 00:57:02.070 --> 00:57:02.490 Okay. 325 00:57:06.390 --> 00:57:09.270 And Kimberly. Is there anything you wanted to add to that. 326 00:57:09.750 --> 00:57:12.240 No Lindsey did a fabulous job. 327 00:57:13.290 --> 00:57:20.610 Kimberly. I've got a question. Another question next that I think you might you based on your presentation, you might have something to say. And 328 00:57:21.060 --> 00:57:33.840 This question says, How do you feel about the challenge of food banks acquiring ethnically and equitable foods in the food banks for certain communities. 329 00:57:35.910 --> 00:57:38.790 That makes, if that's a clear question. 330 00:57:38.910 --> 00:57:43.800 Okay read that, say it one more time. I think I had the answer. I just want to hear that one more time to 331 00:57:43.830 --> 00:57:47.670 Yeah. And you might be able to see the Q A and A box. I'm not sure, but 332 00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:58.800 The question is how do you feel about the challenge of food banks acquiring ethnically equitable foods in the food banks for certain communities. 333 00:57:59.910 --> 00:58:01.410 About the challenge of 334 00:58:03.540 --> 00:58:20.460 Well, the thing is there is structural racism and with that I know from my experience with doing the work down here in Macon County. Well, then the food bank that I 335 00:58:21.270 --> 00:58:27.300 Intern I got more insight was in Lee County and that is a non black belt County. 336 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:52.740 And it's interesting because Lee County and Macon County, or from Tuskegee to Opelik, is about 30 minutes away. But the food bank at the community market, they have a great food pantry is supported by the food bank and they have a very large support system and Macon County is predominantly 337 00:58:54.330 --> 00:59:03.510 African American, and I look at it as to how is it that these two places, you know, are 30 minutes apart in the same 338 00:59:04.500 --> 00:59:17.100 catchment area and Macon County, which is predominantly African American is having issues with getting, I would say funding, well getting food. 339 00:59:17.820 --> 00:59:38.220 from the east food bank of Alabama, I wouldn't say necessarily getting food, but I guess, putting it in a central location, how I feel about that is, is it's a very unsettling feeling considering I've seen it you know firsthand. As far as these food banks going 340 00:59:39.240 --> 00:59:42.660 Again, being supported one Lee County one Macon County one 341 00:59:44.640 --> 00:59:49.440 Little bit less African American versus I hope I answered your question. 342 00:59:53.850 --> 01:00:00.120 Thank you. Kimberly I we're almost out of time, but I did want to ask one more question and 343 01:00:01.140 --> 01:00:11.310 It might be again to you. Kimberly because you spoke about charity, um, the question here from Mecca says as a black woman 344 01:00:11.640 --> 01:00:24.570 working to start a farm and donate some food to those in need. How can I bring awareness to racial disparities in the food system and how can I use my charity to spark social change? 345 01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:29.340 So the thing is what charity again charity makes you feel 346 01:00:29.340 --> 01:00:37.260 Good. If you think of the ethical principle of benevolence, that is to do the intent to do no harm. 347 01:00:37.710 --> 01:00:43.380 And when we think of charity. Again, it's great you know you're giving your time you're giving you know your resources, but 348 01:00:43.650 --> 01:00:54.330 At the same time, it should be a social justice mission because really the goal is to make sure that the individuals or the communities become autonomous and they are sovereign 349 01:00:55.020 --> 01:00:59.970 In the efforts to go back to that is to try community asset mapping 350 01:01:00.540 --> 01:01:08.370 For I was reading an article, maybe a few days ago talking about the food forces now that are in Atlanta. 351 01:01:08.670 --> 01:01:22.590 So that may be something that you want to check out. But I will say definitely use the community community asset mapping, but also be aware of your intent, and intention is very key. I know this is very off topic but I 352 01:01:23.220 --> 01:01:27.360 Wonder if you have heard of the United States Public Health Service Syphilis Study at Tuskegee 353 01:01:27.720 --> 01:01:38.940 Or the erroneously titled Tuskegee Experiment, that it's the wrong title. And if you look at that and parallel that very quickly, you have to look at the intent of that study as well, which is 354 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:46.290 to look at the natural progression of syphilis and they would think, the researchers thought that they were doing it in 355 01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:55.260 The name of science, in the name of good science. So you have to be aware of your intentions of, do you just want to feel good of charity, which is great. 356 01:01:55.650 --> 01:02:12.120 Or do you really want to spark this change. And I think that has to be inflected with you and what your lens is, your ethical lens what are your ethics and what are your morals and how you can amplify that to make sure that people can see that and become autonomy themselves. 357 01:02:16.770 --> 01:02:25.560 Great. And I'm just going to take the moderator's or host's privilege and ask a final question posed by 358 01:02:26.550 --> 01:02:42.060 Christine Porter, University of Wyoming, who is a leader in our network and also served as a mentor for this program. And her question is being it from an academic point of view, of course, is is 359 01:02:43.200 --> 01:02:55.560 is complicated. But you guys are all speaking to this and it's really important in her question is "the impacts of white supremacy and structural racism are also manifest in the academy, of course. 360 01:02:56.070 --> 01:03:06.660 For her, I believe it was Monyai's hegemony point, for example, for a network like INFAS, which the three of you have been working with us over the last year, and we're hosting 361 01:03:07.020 --> 01:03:21.870 We would love to know your thoughts on actions that our faculty and activist academic network. What can we do to undo and counter the systemic white supremacy and structural racism, 362 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:34.560 and support and sustain upcoming and current faculty of color who are doing radical work." So that's a, that's a lot of stuff there. But we would love to hear your input. 363 01:03:35.220 --> 01:03:35.550 OK. 364 01:03:36.180 --> 01:03:36.810 That one. 365 01:03:38.610 --> 01:03:47.010 Okay, so thank you Dr. Porter for that question. One thing that comes like right to mind, an example is the movie "The Help" with 366 01:03:48.240 --> 01:03:56.760 Octavia Spencer and her co star. I can't remember her co star's name at the moment, but in the example 367 01:03:57.210 --> 01:04:02.370 they weren't going to pay Octavia Spencer her due like what she felt she was worth. And so her co star, 368 01:04:02.940 --> 01:04:08.940 A Caucasian woman, a white woman went to the powers that be the leadership and was like, I 369 01:04:09.210 --> 01:04:16.710 I stand with her, like, I'm not going to act in this role. I'm not going to be in this capacity until you pay her what she deserves to be paid. 370 01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:29.100 And that sort of movement shocked them and it changed the way she was paid and there's an article about that. I can drop a link about that. And so I think that's a great example of the same type of work that can be done with academia. 371 01:04:29.340 --> 01:04:36.360 And I'll give you a historical point on that Stokely Carmichael (or Kwame Ture) he would always tell people, especially white people. 372 01:04:36.510 --> 01:04:49.140 Go to your home communities, your home institutions and advocate, you can't come to my community and advocate because my people need to see me as a leader, but you need to go into your community and advocate for 373 01:04:49.740 --> 01:05:03.990 This work to be done with your family members with the people that you will have sway over. And so what that looks like to me in the academic realm: I brought up the state one to one (fund) matching: the APLU association of public land grant universities put out this study (http://www.aplu.org/library/land-grant-but-unequal-state-one-to-one-match-funding-for-1890-land-grant-universities/file) 374 01:05:04.950 --> 01:05:20.250 Scholars at 1862, at these major land land grant universities, like mission like just so many different large there's so many across you know every state has land grant so they and not just those institutions other institutions. 375 01:05:20.730 --> 01:05:27.330 They need to stand up and start doing research and start advocating, coming to there administration being like hey 376 01:05:27.510 --> 01:05:40.080 "Why did we get an eight to one match and our 1890 brethren didn't even get their one to one match? I will no longer do research for an institution that would be so greedy like that would take so much money. 377 01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:52.170 While another institution doesn't get it." So these universities have to stand in solidarity to start making some lawmakers see that like this should not be done in 2019 and going into 2020. So that would be my suggestion. 378 01:05:54.330 --> 01:05:58.110 This is Monyai, i agree 100% with you said Lindsey 379 01:06:00.510 --> 01:06:10.500 You're saying, but no, seriously, people do need to be transparent and stop sugarcoating and call it out for what it is, especially when it comes to academia. 380 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:21.150 Um a lot of people try not to say things because they don't want the shame to be looked at them, but they don't want it to affect the trajectory of their career and that is not right because 381 01:06:21.570 --> 01:06:38.700 It's it just is playing into structural racism, it is playing into the structure of white supremacy, of hegemonic ideas that is so rampant, not only in American academia, but internationally as well. So I think you did a great job explaining that Lindsay, for sure. 382 01:06:40.410 --> 01:06:41.070 Thank you. 383 01:06:47.640 --> 01:06:56.550 One final question from another INFAS member is, if you would be interested to speak to your vision for food sovereignty in the communities where you work. 384 01:07:10.680 --> 01:07:23.670 So, well. So my I've been reading a lot lately. it's going into summertime, so I well, I read all the time. Let me say like this. I've been able to read for pleasure lately, and I've been picking up some NK Jemison 385 01:07:24.270 --> 01:07:28.470 Books and one of the ones I'm reading right now is called "how long till black future month" 386 01:07:28.740 --> 01:07:33.120 And it's basically Afro Futurism and she basically found a genre of 387 01:07:33.300 --> 01:07:39.420 Science fiction, where she realized that there weren't a lot of science fiction about black people living in the future, like 388 01:07:39.540 --> 01:07:46.500 People didn't really see a future for black people so they weren't writing about it. And you guys know that science fiction is totally self fulfilling prophecy 389 01:07:46.680 --> 01:07:56.970 So when you talk about a vision and I think about the future. And I think about food. I really like to just think creative ways like um, like my vision. I don't know. It's 390 01:07:57.330 --> 01:08:07.560 My full vision would just really be going back to like where people can access market ways and marketplaces and people, in a lot of ways, it's going back 391 01:08:07.770 --> 01:08:12.870 I just, I love Afro futurism. And it's kind of like the movie Black Panther. It goes back. It's an ode to like 392 01:08:13.530 --> 01:08:20.520 Community and culture and tribalism. And just like the way people used to live, but it's in the future because we're never going back right we're always going forward. 393 01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:25.680 So I see a lot of just traditional things coming back. But then, with new with new 394 01:08:25.830 --> 01:08:37.800 New flavor new techniques and then integration because so many different things mixing together so like my vision is is like, because I've been reading so much science fiction lately. I have my vision really open and it's really colorful 395 01:08:39.330 --> 01:08:45.360 This is Monyai. So my vision would be countries that are, because 396 01:08:46.110 --> 01:08:57.840 Because I studied international relations. I always have like an international perspective and I'm studying West Africa, particularly Liberia, as we just found out. So I think that like countries that are 397 01:08:58.620 --> 01:09:12.630 That produce a lot of food, but have to do a lot of exporting I think food sovereignty to me would be would be them being able to feed their own country feed their own citizens. 398 01:09:12.930 --> 01:09:20.190 People should not be food insecure. If you have the if you have the capacity to produce 399 01:09:21.030 --> 01:09:37.050 The agricultural capacity to produce food. But as we see there are structural barriers to that. So to me it would be breaking down those barriers and actually using your the, the foods that you produce in your country for your citizens first 400 01:09:42.570 --> 01:09:44.130 And this is. Oh, sorry. 401 01:09:44.340 --> 01:09:47.550 No, go. I was just gonna, I was gonna ask if anybody. Go ahead. Go ahead. Kimberly. 402 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:59.070 Yes, so, um, to that question. I think of food sovereignty my vision for it is one starting off with a cultural framing. So looking at 403 01:09:59.730 --> 01:10:15.390 food sovereignty as a relational event with different relationships. So when you build a have a strong network of social capital, capital or empowerment. It kind of goes into how you can 404 01:10:16.530 --> 01:10:23.130 very loosely create a way of life and way I see with food sovereignty is that I'm 405 01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:31.350 Building around a culture that is sustainable build it around a culture that is Autonomous, autonomous and everything else 406 01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:44.190 Should be able to flow from so it's like when you have this relationship of the culture, you have this relationship with the environment, you have this relationship with health these things that are inter connected together 407 01:10:45.450 --> 01:10:55.080 will form, not just food sovereignty, but racial equity, excuse me, health equity. and the other assets. So that's what I look at it. 408 01:10:59.850 --> 01:11:06.030 Great, well thank you guys. Thanks, everybody. Thanks for joining. And for those of you who stuck around for the 409 01:11:06.540 --> 01:11:14.700 The I think the most fun part, which is the Q and A where we get into more of what each of the fellows, think about 410 01:11:15.360 --> 01:11:29.790 their perspectives on on really important questions in the food system. So I want to thank you guys for hanging around and thank all the fellows for your great work and to those of you still on the call. I'll just again say in a few days when I get this 411 01:11:32.550 --> 01:11:41.550 When I get the link ready and everything. I will send a follow up email to everybody and share and I will also share 412 01:11:42.420 --> 01:12:02.790 the notes, such as Casey Hoy from OSU INFAS member recommending a book by his friend and colleague, Melanie Harris called eco womanism African American women and earth honoring faiths. So this is great. I need some new books to read for the summer. So now I've got two 413 01:12:03.870 --> 01:12:08.070 On my list of plus the third one, the one 414 01:12:10.470 --> 01:12:17.460 In the talk was it I think is Lindsey who talked about the Disparity book I've already got that one anyway I diverge. 415 01:12:18.150 --> 01:12:27.690 I will send everything to you guys, including the links and the references and thank you guys and also I will send you some contact information to the fellows. 416 01:12:28.170 --> 01:12:44.010 If you are interested in inviting them to give a talk or work with you, I'm sure, as they advance in their professional careers, they would love to speak with you further. So thank you all. I'll go ahead and end